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	<title>Comments on: &#8216;Earth Hour&#8217; Stupidity</title>
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		<title>By: BobboMax</title>
		<link>http://skepticssa.wordpress.com/2008/03/31/earth-hour-stupidity/#comment-823</link>
		<dc:creator>BobboMax</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Apr 2009 03:31:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You&#039;d probably like my (somewhat difficult to verify) theory that a human using an electric lawnmower (120V in the States) has a lower carbon footprint than someone using a manual mower- humans are a significant source of CO2, after all, and pushing a mower is slow, hard work.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You&#8217;d probably like my (somewhat difficult to verify) theory that a human using an electric lawnmower (120V in the States) has a lower carbon footprint than someone using a manual mower- humans are a significant source of CO2, after all, and pushing a mower is slow, hard work.</p>
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		<title>By: skepticssa</title>
		<link>http://skepticssa.wordpress.com/2008/03/31/earth-hour-stupidity/#comment-821</link>
		<dc:creator>skepticssa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 31 Mar 2009 10:00:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Jake
Firstly you rude little turd, I was calling the idea stupid, not the people. You also misquote me many times and try to set up straw man arguments. You are totally rude and then criticize me for not being able to predict the future climate, something I never claimed to do. You then go into a rant about modeling, something I didn&#039;t even address.

I find it quite  amazing that you would speak like this , you do realise that if you spoke to people face to face like that you&#039;d probably get a fat lip for your effort? You really do come across as some little stuck up fascist.
I assume you also realise that when you post such rude flames the admin of the blog, i.e. me, actually knows who your are?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Jake<br />
Firstly you rude little turd, I was calling the idea stupid, not the people. You also misquote me many times and try to set up straw man arguments. You are totally rude and then criticize me for not being able to predict the future climate, something I never claimed to do. You then go into a rant about modeling, something I didn&#8217;t even address.</p>
<p>I find it quite  amazing that you would speak like this , you do realise that if you spoke to people face to face like that you&#8217;d probably get a fat lip for your effort? You really do come across as some little stuck up fascist.<br />
I assume you also realise that when you post such rude flames the admin of the blog, i.e. me, actually knows who your are?</p>
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		<title>By: Jake</title>
		<link>http://skepticssa.wordpress.com/2008/03/31/earth-hour-stupidity/#comment-820</link>
		<dc:creator>Jake</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 31 Mar 2009 06:42:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So, at the end of calling everyone stupid, you reach the conclusion that the government banning businesses from using electricity as they wish will not have a negative impact on our lives. More than that, &quot;negatively impacting our bottom line&quot; is a negligible effect of government interventionism, compared to what climate change will &quot;undoubtedly do to &quot;screw up our civilization&quot;.

And finally, the reason why you get to call everyone stupid, lament on how the media is not being smart enough when informing us, and state, without feeling the need to argument this with any actual scientific reasoning, your prediction (a shade different and a bit more vague than the dozens of other, similar predictions other great visionaries keep making) of the future and of what we (as a fucking 6 billion man entity presumably) need to do, is that you read &quot;countless&quot; articles on the issue. 
Go fuck yourself: the climate may be changing, and CO2 levels rising does obviously have some effect on it, but there is no way for you to predict the future of the climate. Not only can you not understand the full complexity of all the variables involved (no one can), but you don&#039;t even understand how the various, and quite diverse, computer models which are designed to simulate that complexity, are built. At best, they offer predictions which have given likelihoods, at worst, they are completely wrong.--either way, you my friend have no idea what they do, so you have no basis to decide whether they&#039;re right or not. Leave scientific journalism to those who are qualified.
And finally, and maybe even more importantly, you have no concept of what &quot;the bottom line&quot; means to our lives, and you can&#039;t even begin to figure out how to determine whether the benefits of reducing our &quot;carbon footprint&quot; would outweigh the costs. And since you mentioned history, historically any nation which allowed the State to run its economy to an extent that would allow it this much control, ended up watching its children die of malnutrition and cold. All because the &quot;common good&quot; and the big picture, as seen by idiots such as yourself, was more important than individuals and their independent, rational minds.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So, at the end of calling everyone stupid, you reach the conclusion that the government banning businesses from using electricity as they wish will not have a negative impact on our lives. More than that, &#8220;negatively impacting our bottom line&#8221; is a negligible effect of government interventionism, compared to what climate change will &#8220;undoubtedly do to &#8220;screw up our civilization&#8221;.</p>
<p>And finally, the reason why you get to call everyone stupid, lament on how the media is not being smart enough when informing us, and state, without feeling the need to argument this with any actual scientific reasoning, your prediction (a shade different and a bit more vague than the dozens of other, similar predictions other great visionaries keep making) of the future and of what we (as a fucking 6 billion man entity presumably) need to do, is that you read &#8220;countless&#8221; articles on the issue.<br />
Go fuck yourself: the climate may be changing, and CO2 levels rising does obviously have some effect on it, but there is no way for you to predict the future of the climate. Not only can you not understand the full complexity of all the variables involved (no one can), but you don&#8217;t even understand how the various, and quite diverse, computer models which are designed to simulate that complexity, are built. At best, they offer predictions which have given likelihoods, at worst, they are completely wrong.&#8211;either way, you my friend have no idea what they do, so you have no basis to decide whether they&#8217;re right or not. Leave scientific journalism to those who are qualified.<br />
And finally, and maybe even more importantly, you have no concept of what &#8220;the bottom line&#8221; means to our lives, and you can&#8217;t even begin to figure out how to determine whether the benefits of reducing our &#8220;carbon footprint&#8221; would outweigh the costs. And since you mentioned history, historically any nation which allowed the State to run its economy to an extent that would allow it this much control, ended up watching its children die of malnutrition and cold. All because the &#8220;common good&#8221; and the big picture, as seen by idiots such as yourself, was more important than individuals and their independent, rational minds.</p>
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		<title>By: mrgnome</title>
		<link>http://skepticssa.wordpress.com/2008/03/31/earth-hour-stupidity/#comment-819</link>
		<dc:creator>mrgnome</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Mar 2009 21:28:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You hit the nail on the head there</description>
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		<title>By: Jason</title>
		<link>http://skepticssa.wordpress.com/2008/03/31/earth-hour-stupidity/#comment-603</link>
		<dc:creator>Jason</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 31 Mar 2008 15:58:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Right on!

I was wondering the exact same thing, did a Google search for &quot;candle co2 compared to lights&quot; and found your post.  Thanks for doing the research!

My guess is that the same person that came up with this has been working on making his &quot;infinite energy machine&quot; aka a generator connected to an AC motor and wondering why the thing won&#039;t work...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Right on!</p>
<p>I was wondering the exact same thing, did a Google search for &#8220;candle co2 compared to lights&#8221; and found your post.  Thanks for doing the research!</p>
<p>My guess is that the same person that came up with this has been working on making his &#8220;infinite energy machine&#8221; aka a generator connected to an AC motor and wondering why the thing won&#8217;t work&#8230;</p>
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